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RevFunk
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« on: September 20, 2009, 07:37:54 AM »

hey gang! Well......a friend of mine was nice enough to share her elixir recipe with me a few weeks back.....and with a few tweaks of my own as well as a few other med friends, we've come up with an amazing orally administered thc delivery vehicle........elixir for short  Cool

Before we even get to the elixir making portion of the recipe, we need to isolate our cannabinoids in a soluble solution. Basically, we need to make a titrated tincture. So, you could choose to use any strength of distilled spirits that are over 40% alcohol or you could use vegetable glycerin. The glycerin will take 2-3 months and need to be shaken/stirred daily......the recipe for that is already on the site. My suggestion is to purchase Everclear if your state allows it. It is 95% alcohol by volume and can 'carry' the most cannabinoids out of all the available choices. NOTE: for those that don't like alcohol tinctures because of the burn and/or the sheer fact that it contains alcohol, no worries. Remember....this is just step one! Once we have the elixir made, there won't be any alcohol left.......nothing but thc infused organic honey wink

So........if you're using Everclear (again, my recommendation) you need to make sure your buds/trim are bone dry and pre-frozen for at least 24 hours, this will help the trich glands break off into the solution faster and in greater concentration. The recommended range for dosing spans from 1g per oz of soluble all the way up to 7g per oz of soluble, so it's really up to your own personal preference and experimenting.  Place your material into a mason jar (I used 2 oz of trim and popcorn bud for mine) and soak them with the Everclear. I used 750ml of Everclear (or roughly 22 oz). Doing the math you can see that my elixir's ratio will initially be 56g/22oz= 2.54g per oz. Shake vigorously for about 10-15 minutes, then strain the tincture using cheese cloth. Yup......a fully functional tincture in under an hour. SO...you could stop here......but I suggest continuing on   wink

Now that we have our cannabinoids isolated from our plant material you can go two different routes here, I suggest route two:

1. You can combine the amount of tincture you have with the same amount of honey, then place this in a double boiler if you have one, or place over an ELECTRIC stove on low-medium heat. WARNING: Everclear is beyond flammable...so you MUST have good ventilation or do this outside over a hot plate. You'll see the mix beginning to agitate and slightly bubble, but not boil. More like a rolling boil where the water on the outside of the mason jar is never fully boiling, but has bubbles. This temp will cause the tinc/honey blend to slightly bubble and boil. You continue doing this until ALL of the alcohol is evaporated off, leaving you with 100% honey infused thc.

2. Same method as before, except you cook down the initial tincture to half the amount you started with. This will literally and figuratvely double the titration/strength of your tinc as the cannabinoid concentration will stay the same, except less alcohol. Once you've boiled the tinc down to half of what you started with...then you add the honey and repeat the process, evaporating off the rest of the everclear, leaving you with a VERY titrated honey elixir.

There we have it. I don't have pictures to add like I usually do, but I will get shots the next time I have a chance to make this wonderful medicine. Once everything is said and done, you can also add any flavoring you may like......my friend always adds 1/4 tsp of vanilla extract and 1/4 tsp of ginger extract to her elixir. She primarily uses this elixir to handle nausea from crohn's and shooting nerve pains in her legs following a botched back surgery many years ago.......she used to take two 140mg oxycontin daily.........now she happily reports that she takes 1/2 of that dose of narcotics AND has been able to wean herself down from the terribly addictive oxycodone to the virtually non-addictive tramadol. I could easily see a 100% indica elixir make Ambien look like child's play......the therapeutic properties of cannabis are soooooooo robust and, unlike prescription medications, are virtually non-toxic to our cellular system. My friends also stated that during the flu season, she makes her elixir the same way but adds many vitamins and homeopathic remedies (astragulus root) to help fend off sickness and boost her immune system.

Dosage varies depending on strain and quantity. I used trim from Giesel, two SSH sativa phenos, afkansastan, urkel, bubba, and tahoe og...................a big blend of indica, sativa and everything in between. This gave me a very well-balanced elixir. My friends says to do seperate indica and sativa elixirs next time as "you won't believe the differences you can find." Another friend of mine followed this recipe, but used 2 oz of KIEF..........he sent me 1/8oz of this elixir and I still have half of it left!!!! Literally 5 drops under the tongue and I'm very nicely medicated for 4-6 hours.

Another benefit from this elixir that I've found is that it dramatically decreases the amount of smoked flower and noxious gas you need to expose your lungs too. With this elixir running through your system......one hit of dried flower can feel like you just finished off a joint in one puff.......no exaggeration. Also, if you are not familiar with orally administered cannabis, please start small. This is NOT like smoking cannabis, as the THC-9 is converted into the much more psychoactive hydroxy-11-thc by your liver. It is very easy to overdue it and very hard to get back 'down' once your body has begun to process the cannabinoids.

Have fun, experiment, and please post any results and/or findings you come across!

Rev
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 10:40:57 AM »

Here is another version of the same recipe...I cut and paste this from AAMC, mainly because of the final paragraph that mentions the different homeopathic remedies that this can be tweaked too. From my experience, when using 190 proof alcohol as your soluble....you DO NOT want to let it sit for weeks like this recipes calls for. It's not needed as the high % of alcohol immediately extracts the desired cannabinoids within 30 minutes.....anything after that is just adding chloryphyl, terpenes, and other nasties you don't want in your final mixture. I also included the general tincture recipe, as it may explain the process better than I was able to do hehehehehehe

Enjoy............

Cannabis Elixir

James Freire, M.A.

This is a re-creation of an old remedy from the 1800’s. It involves suspending the cannabinoids in sugar syrup in what is known as a micellized solution. This is a very easy process similar to making candy but one should use care when evaporating alcohol (a distillation device makes this part very nice).

To begin, thoroughly dry the herb to be used and make a strong tincture (190 proof is best). Grind it to a powder and then just cover with alcohol and let it stand somewhere dark for a couple weeks. After this is done strain the alcohol from the herb and save it. The herb is now spent and can be thrown out. Place the tincture in a double boiler over ELECTRIC heat and reduce the volume in half. After this add ½ the remaining volume of tincture in honey or some other syrup and 4-6 vitamin E caps (e.g.: if you have 2 quarts of tincture after reducing you would add 1 quart of honey). This is when you can add other herb tinctures and flavors (I use a root beer flavor base). Continue to reduce the volume with constant stirring until you have nearly boiled it down to the original volume of syrup that you began with. Let this cool and bottle in dark glass, then store in the refrigerator. Depending on the original strength of the herb, the dosage should be between a teaspoon and a couple tablespoons.

This basic recipe can be used to create an elixir from any tincture and the basic cannabis elixir can be modified for specific ailments. For example, adding syrup of elderberry makes this without a doubt the most effective treatment for influenza that exists. Kava can be added for greater pain control and sedation. With a little study of herbal medicine you can customize the blend for specific ailments. There are many uses for this syrup, but my family has come to rely on it as our sole treatment for colds and flu when made with elderberry and cats claw.

Tincture

Jay R. Cavanaugh, Ph.D.
AAMC, National Director

Many patients who utilize and benefit from medical cannabis do not wish to smoke due to the perceived health hazards of smoking or for other personal reasons. These patients are in something of a bind. Smoking cannabis delivers the active cannabinoids within seconds. Medicine is absorbed in the lungs and goes directly to the brain and general circulation. The same effect can be achieved with a vaporizer, which is safer than smoking burning vegetable matter. Since the effects of inhaled cannabis are so quick, it is easy for patients to titrate their dose by simply waiting a minute or two in between puffs.

Oral cannabis, such as our Better Bud Butter, is absorbed in a very different fashion from smoking or inhalation. The GI tract gradually absorbs Cannabinoids over the course of one to two hours. Medicine is processed first by the liver, which converts some cannabinoids such as delta nine to delta 11 version of THC. Orally delivered cannabis requires four to ten times the amount of the smoked version in order to achieve the same effect. Orally delivered cannabis can present a problem in achieving the required or desired dose level in any consistent fashion.

Tincture is designed to address the problems of rapid medicine delivery and consistent dosing. Most tinctures are made to be used under the tongue or sublingually. English pharmaceutical companies are presently working on a cannabis extract "spray" that can be used under the tongue in a similar fashion. These sprays are not expected to be approved for use in the United States for years and will be very expensive. Absorption by the arterial blood supply under the tongue is completed in seconds. One trick is to not swallow the dose as, if swallowed, absorption will be in the GI tract. Many patients, though, add their tincture to a cup of tea or cranberry juice for easy delivery. When tincture is used in a beverage, absorption will be slower than if absorbed under the tongue. While tincture absorbed in an empty stomach is accomplished in minutes, conversion in the liver remains, as does the difficulty in titrating dose. Usually, a tincture dose is delivered by means of a medicine dropper or a teaspoon. A rule of thumb on dose is that patients receive benefit from 3-4 drops to a couple of full droppers depending upon the potency of the tincture and the patient’s own unique requirements among other factors.

The methods listed below will detail two major methods of preparing tincture. While the methods are optimized for purity and potency, ultimately these will largely be determined by the purity and potency of the cannabis from which the tincture is made. Another item of note in regard to starting material for tincture is the patient or caregiver selection of strain. A rough rule of thumb is to select Indica dominant strains for cramping and muscle spasticity and Sativa dominant strains for pain relief. The reality, though, is often that the strain is unknown or not well characterized. Trial and error is usually required to acquire the appropriate strain and the proper dose level.

 

General Rules:

Tincture is an extraction of active cannabinoids from plant material. Cannabis contains many chemicals that can either upset the stomach or taste nasty. One of the goals of extraction is to secure the cannabinoids while leaving out as many of the terpenes and chlorophylls as possible. Both heat and light adversely effect cannabinoids and should be avoided or minimized. Tincture should be stored in airtight dark glass containers kept at room temperature or below. Avoid plastic containers. The ethanol in the tincture may solubilize some of the free vinyls in the plastic.

Cold Method with Ethanol

Making tincture cold preserves the integrity of cannabinoids. To be potent, this method requires starting material high in cannabinoid content such as flowers or kief made from trim and leaf. The material must be mold free and dry. Drying can be accomplished in the freezer (-4-10 degrees Celsius) or better yet by placing in a liquid proof bag into a dry ice/ethanol ice bath (-70 degrees Celsius). Once water has been removed then the surface area of the starting material requires expansion. This can be accomplished a number of ways but two ways stand out:

Using flowers (bud)- Place dried buds in a coffee grinder and pulse until thoroughly ground but not powdered.

Making kief- Rub dry trim and leaves over a silk screen. Collect the powder the comes through the screen. It should be a very pale green. "Kiefing" is an age old way of extracting trichomes from plant material.

Whether kief or ground bud is used both should kept ice cold for this preparation. Similarly, the ethanol to be used should also be ice cold throughout the process.

Selection of alcohol- ethanol or ethyl alcohol is the form of alcohol that can be used by humans. The proof listed on commercial alcohol refers to the percentage of ethanol that the beverage contains. The proof is twice the percentage, so 80 "proof" means that the mixture contains 40% ethanol. The higher the alcohol content used, the better the extraction will work. Ideally, 200 proof ethanol would be best except that ethanol cannot be distilled to this proof so benzene is used to remove the last vestiges of water. This makes "pure" ethanol poisonous.

Many folks use "Everclear" which stands at 190 proof or 95% ethanol. Everclear has no taste. Apparently, Everclear is not available in all States. A close second choice is 151 proof rum. This is a light amber liquid that is 75% ethanol that has a sweet taste. One of our caregiver writers will use nothing but Korbel brandy because she likes the taste. Others use iced Russian vodka. These "normal" distilled spirits are 40% to 50% ethanol. Some patients find that the higher proofs ethanols like Everclear and 151 rum burn too much under the tongue. If burning is a concern consider a high quality 90-100 proof Vodka.

Cold Extraction and purification- Use at least one ounce of starting material to each pint of ethanol. Place cold powdered kief or ground cannabis flowers together with ethanol in a glass quart-mixing jar. Close the jar tightly and vigorously shake for five minutes then return to the freezer. Continue to agitate the mixture every few hours with refreezing. Continue for a period of two to three days.

Pour the cold mixture through a double thickness of sterile cheesecloth. Save the cheesecloth "ball" for topical uses or use the material to make bud butter once dried. The liquid collected through the cheesecloth should then be filtered twice through a paper coffee filter. Use gloves throughout the process, as it is necessary to squeeze the cheesecloth and coffee filters to facilitate the extraction. Without gloves some of the material will be absorbed on the skin.

If Everclear is used the tincture will be pale green to golden. If 151 rum is used an amber tincture results. Dark green tinctures mean that excess plant material is present. This does not mean that the tincture will not be potent, just taste nasty. When Everclear is used, various flavor extracts may be added (vanilla, raspberry, etc.). Be careful to use only a few drop of flavor extract.

Traditional or Warm Method
The old fashioned (and effective) way to make tincture from trim, leaf or "shake" is to grind the plant material to expose surface area. A fine grind is not needed and will just make the tincture cloudy. A rough chop will do. Most folks can’t afford to use kief or bud for tincture but may have leaf handy. If so, this is the way to go. Use ethanol as described above in the same proportions. The key difference is that in this preparation the materials are kept warm (not hot). Light must be avoided.

Place the ethanol and chopped cannabis in a large glass Mason jar. Shake at least once a day. Place the jar in a brown paper bag or otherwise shield the jar from light. Leave in a warm spot (near a window) for 30-60 days. The mixture will turn a very dark green. Strain as previously described through cheesecloth. Save the "shake ball" for topical applications.

While this method produces a nasty tasting tincture, it is powerful. It may upset some fragile stomachs. It is recommended that Warm Tincture be used orally in cranberry juice or coffee with sugar. Keep the filtered tincture in light blocking glass jars or bottles in a cool dry place (refrigerator or freezer is fine). The shake ball should also be kept in the freezer. For topical applications, just take out the cold shake ball and apply a few drops of fresh tincture to the cloth then hold it on the affected area for a few minutes with gentle rubbing.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 10:20:38 AM »

BUMP.............

anyone give it a shot? Or, did EVERYONE give it a shot and just haven't woken back up? hehehehehe

peace
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 07:51:17 AM »

Interesting ... Will try in the future

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 07:40:02 AM »

I will give this a try since I don't have a good way to make bubble hash at the moment and I have heard basser makes rockin' tinctures even though I have yet to try them.
I should have a couple ozs of quality trim after I finish harvesting what I have in flower. So I guess a 5th of everclear should work huh.
Do I have to add the honey? It seems that would make it too thick, or do you just reduce it to the consistency you desire? Could I leave some of it as is to make a nightcap once in a while?
I think I would like to make up some and add ginseng, vitamins b,c and e along with a couple others to make a general immune/energy/pain mix to take every morning.

Great info Rev thumbsup
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 02:39:55 PM »

I will give this a try since I don't have a good way to make bubble hash at the moment and I have heard basser makes rockin' tinctures even though I have yet to try them.
I should have a couple ozs of quality trim after I finish harvesting what I have in flower. So I guess a 5th of everclear should work huh.
Do I have to add the honey? It seems that would make it too thick, or do you just reduce it to the consistency you desire? Could I leave some of it as is to make a nightcap once in a while?
I think I would like to make up some and add ginseng, vitamins b,c and e along with a couple others to make a general immune/energy/pain mix to take every morning.

Great info Rev thumbsup

yes indeed sir!!!! GREAT to see ya   Smiley

The honey is completely optional......I recommend the Honey Elixir to crohn's patients and those going thru chemo ( or otherwise have ulcerations in their mouths) because the everclear tinc by itself would leave me unable to talk for a few days from swelling alone...........Honey, on the other hand, has natural antibacterial properties, so it actually helps keep my ulcers in check, all while VERY efficiently keeping me medicated.

can't wait to hear your results my friend!
rev
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